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Hey Coupley Fit fam, welcome back to another episode.
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We are so excited for this discussion.
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We're gonna be talking about 10 ways to be a better partner for your spouse.
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So we've seen some viral clips that have just been released where some spouses have been really, you know, getting some things off their chest.
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They've been really letting their partner know and really letting the world know how they feel about how things are going, and what's interesting is it's been more of the wives than the husbands really putting their foot down, saying I need some more help.
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This isn't good enough.
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And so one of the clips was a wife talking about how basically she's been she's a mother of four and her husband they both work full time and basically her husband has not been helping her with the basics dumping the trash, emptying the dishwasher, helping with the kids.
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That was the main, that was the big one, because she's saying these things help her when she's helping the four kids which she's responsible for, the household and the kids, getting them ready, getting them to school, all of these things.
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And she's a CEO as well, correct?
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She wasn't a CEO, but her and her husband both work, so it's like these are her duties before work and she's like I'm burnt out.
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She expressed it.
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It wasn't enough People in the comments.
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I thought it was interesting because the guys in the comments were pretty ruthless, basically saying what is she complaining about?
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The man's working hard all day?
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She cause she did say like he's loyal, he's trustworthy, like all of those things are great.
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He works, he's a provider, but hopefully basics right Well so that's the thing.
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That's some people in the comments were saying those aren't the basics, these are above and beyond, and I think that's a part of the conversation.
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So what do you think is like the basics, above and beyond?
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And I think that's a part of the dialogue, of the discussion, of why it went viral, because the ladies are saying these like what she's asking for is like bare minimums, and the fellows are saying she's asking for too much okay, well, I think first we need to get into the mindset of the men that are discussing in the comments.
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Right, it's giving.
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I'm only a provider and that's all I'm going to do.
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I'm not going to necessarily be in the household and contributing in other ways, because I bring home the chicken okay, I bring home the money.
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So what is being see?
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I was going to say being the provider.
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Only what does that look like, Like, what does that mean?
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You know, and obviously you would know more from a male standpoint than I would, but in my opinion, I believe it would be I go to work, I focus there, I get a steady paycheck with benefits whatever that looks like your compensation package looks like and I bring it back home.
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Whatever that looks like your compensation package looks like, and I bring it back home.
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And that's what my contribution is to not only this family, but also to you as well as my spouses.
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I provide this lifestyle for you when, if I, as a woman, am also working, I would say I'm contributing to this lifestyle as well.
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So if that's the case, then we need to be working together more as a team in the household, because we always talk about we talk a lot in sports metaphors and things like that where if you are a husband and wife team and we're just talking specifically from our viewpoint of what we know, then it needs to be a situation where we are coming together and we're working as a team.
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Somebody may be the head coach one day, somebody may be more of you know a player.
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Somebody may be more of a GM, somebody may be more of a head coach kind of going back and forth on what that looks like, and I think that actually goes right into our first tip that we have.
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I'm ready, right?
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So first is going to be cultivate self-awareness.
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Oh, being self-aware is key.
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Being self-aware is key, where you're able to self-reflect on okay, what am I contributing to the family besides money, besides on the monetary side?
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What else am I doing to be able to contribute to this family unit and what does that also look like?
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But I think that does have to be a conversation that you have with your spouse on what are the expectations, and when the conversation is then had, I need you to live up to those expectations.
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Right, and now again, it's the reason you have a conversation and you you go back and forth is figuring out.
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This is my expectation.
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What's your expectation when it comes to household chores, when it comes to taking care of the kids, when it comes to you know how we plan for the future, whether that's retirement or if we want to purchase a larger home, whatever that looks like.
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What does that look like for you and what does that look like for me?
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Let's find a middle ground.
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Or even if there's some times where I may not budge on a certain thing, because I simply know that this is a stressor for me and I need you to help me not have this be such a stress for stressor in my life.
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Yeah, that makes sense and it reminds me of a of a saying that unexpressed expectations lead to resentment.
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Yes, and I felt, like the video I saw, there was resentment that was built up because she expressed how she was doing or feeling about the situation and there wasn't changes right, and maybe you're listening and she said, oh, he said yeah, I'll help you, but then forgot or something else came up.
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I think, to the point that you're making is there was what you see on TV a lot of times is like it is enough to bring home the bacon or make the money.
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You come home, my dinner should be ready, you know, be able to put my feet up on the lazy boy, kick the feet back.
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Cold drink was the cold beverage, and that's like, I think, what some people think.
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But you made a great call out.
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It's not like she was home all day just chilling waiting for him to get there.
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She's also working as well, and so there is that balance and I think it can be overlooked, because a lot of time the responsibility falls on the mother or the wife to take care of the kids.
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But imagine four kids.
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I mean, that's what I was thinking about when I heard her video I'm like think about, think about getting four kids ready for school.
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Having to bring four kids downstairs, get them packed, get them ready, get them out the door, Yourself as well, Yourself as well, because you're getting ready for work right, and you're also like the trash is full, it's overflowing.
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I'm looking for this sippy cup that was supposed to be cleaned and, you know, rinsed out.
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That's not ready.
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So I could see how that could be like.
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And again it on one end, I could also understand where people feel maybe as if, like, it's not that big of a deal, right, but it's like anything, the little things become big things and that's where, when they're not expressed or if you're not actively listening to your partner, it leads to a bigger problem and I think that's where a lot of times, that disconnect is.
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But you said something earlier about the expectations not being expressed and I think that's a really big thing, because right now, what we see more and more and you see with athletes, a lot of these stars, is, you know, it's kind of, it's not tricking if you got it.
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So you meet somebody, you're throwing big money, money, you're doing these lavish dates, lavish lifestyle, and then all of a sudden you get married or you're, you know, together and it's that that expectation was set, that you were going to continue to this is, yeah, the lifestyle that you're going to.
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We were supposed to be on private jets, five-star dining.
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now you're like we need to be on, you know, buddy pass, we need to be on, you know, sitting in the back of the plate, or we need to just make it more modest and sometimes that's a complete different standard or conversation than what you initially started with.
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So I think setting the tone early of like, what do you expect, I think is really important.
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Absolutely, because, again to your point, if you're not expressing the expectations we also do, what are the goals right?
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What are the goals for each other?
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What's the goal as the family unit?
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Where are we going right?
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And so to your point of what you said before, where my dinner should be on the table, I should have a cold brew ready for me.
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I feel personally, in this day and age that we are in, in 2025, that is a very, almost old school way of thinking, because of the amount of women that are now becoming not only working but becoming the breadwinners and making more money than their husbands.
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And so now we're also seeing that there is a shift where there is now house husbands, where husbands are staying at home, and so roles are reversing in that way, so roles are reversing in that way, so now it becomes okay.
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Well, if you're not bringing the monetary aspect, then what are you doing at home to be able to make this easier for the person that is, you know, making more money at that time?
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But then also, again, it just comes back to the team unit.
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We have to work as a team.
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This needs to be.
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How can we get this to be seamless?
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I feel, feel too you were talking about before the viral clip.
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She was mentioning that.
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She told her husband I need you to, I think, empty the dishwasher.
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I need you to maybe help me pack the kids' lunches and I can do the breakfast in the morning.
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Because he asked her how can I help you, she told him this is how you can help me.
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And time after time, he wasn't doing it.
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And that's where we can go into our second way of being a better partner, which is to listen, but actively listen, which we talked about in a couple of our previous episodes, where you are attentive when you're listening.
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So it's going to be something we say to each other is, if it's a point we want to get across, we say I need your undivided attention at this point.
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And now we both know oh okay, put everything down, you have my undivided attention.
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What do you want to say?
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I'm present and I'm in the moment and I'm listening.
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But then it also allows you to be able to reflect and respond without judgment Because, again, although you may not see that you know, not helping with the lunches is not a big deal in the mornings, I'm telling you it's a big deal, and so you need to almost look at what I'm saying and give me the benefit of the doubt that, although it again, it may not be a stressor for you, it's a stressor for me in the morning, and this will be able to help me not only move swiftly in the morning, but it's going to help decrease my cortisol, if we're talking about health and wellness as well.
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You know, women, within your first 30 minutes of waking up, your cortisol instantly spikes, because now we're already thinking, oh my gosh, what do I have to do for the day?
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I have four kids.
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I need to get them all ready, are they?
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I have to brush their hair, brush their teeth, I have to, hopefully.
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You know, my husband helped me out today.
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But then I get downstairs and, oh man, the dishwasher is not empty like I asked.
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The lunches aren't made like I asked.
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So now I spiked again and it's just.
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It's a constant cycle.
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So it's.
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I personally feel everybody in the households, in the sense of guardians or spouses, should be able to know how to do everything.
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In the sense of you should be able to, as a male, you should be able to also know how to pack the kids' lunches.
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You should also be able to know what homework needs to be done.
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Like are you present in the household to help each other out and be my helpmate.
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Yeah, no, when you talk about the helpmate and I think about like.
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This hits close to home for me too, because I didn't see, like growing up, I didn't see you know male figures in my household dad or granddad doing many dishes, nah, or cooking many meals.
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They definitely weren't house husbands, that was not the norm.
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So to that point it's like you know what you see and what your conditioning and exposure is can sometimes lead to expectations that you have going into a relationship and a marriage, and that was something that we had to work on.
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I remember early on you had to.
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I mean, you were like, hey, you know you want three squares a day, but you don't want to do any dishes.
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And I was like they are stacking up, you don't want to cook, you don't want to clean, you don't want to.
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You're sitting over there playing 9-in just like is my meal ready and I'm looking at you like sir.
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I'm starving.
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I'm starving.
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And then I realized you know what that's not fair In any, what that's not fair right and in any situation.
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It is a partnership and we do have to collaborate.
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Right, we don't have to, but we choose to and we should collaborate.
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So what does collaboration look like For us?
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It looked like me helping with the dishes, like you're going to cook.
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I don't mind doing the dishes or loading the dishwasher.
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So we literally did some very basics that I think this can be a break.
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It's simple, but can be a a breakthrough for somebody.
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What is maybe the barrier for your partner to doing that thing you're asking them to do?
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So?
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Here's something that's kind of.
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This is personal, but kind of like interesting.
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I don't mind doing dishes, but I don't want my hands to be wet with the dirty dishwater yes so I got to have gloves as soon as I glove up, I can do dishes for hours right, I can literally, can literally watch all of my YouTube.
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I was just going to say right, I literally watch my interviews.
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I watch Dan Campbell, the Detroit Lions.
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I can watch two hours of interviews, catch up on the whole week.
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And now all the dishes are done.
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But I didn't think about that until, like, we sat down and I see on your face and your reaction, what those empty, that empty sink and those dishes being clean, and now the chances are that next meal is going to be even more fire Because you're like I've got the whisk, I've got the bowl, I've got everything I need, versus like you're trying to do it with a fork versus a whisk.
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Because it's dirty.
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Yes, and to your point, we did have to have that discussion.
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I mean, that was probably our first ooh, that might have been our first four years.
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We say critical conversations, critical conversations, and then also just on the the cleaning the house side as well, cause that's another major fight for couples is the division of housework, or house chores.
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Who's going to do what and how often are we going to do that?
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And the other thing, too, is when you talk about the active listening is, if you, if I'm telling you that, hey, these are some of the ways that you're going to be able to help me.
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If you forget, maybe one or two times, okay, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, I'll give you that grace in that moment.
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But I don't want to have to always tell you to do something, cause now I feel like you're a child and now I feel like I have to mother you, and that's not that's who wants to be in a relationship like that, where you are the female and you're taking care of the house, you're the CEO of the house, I'm taking care of the kids, I'm working, but then I also have a husband who I feel like is another child that I have to take care of.
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That's not something that women go into marriages thinking of, nor I'm sure that they want.
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So I think that will go actually into our next way of being able to be a better partner for your spouse and that's going to be practice honesty, and I feel that that goes right into the listening that we talked about before.
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Practicing honesty isn't always easy.
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It's not easy.
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So if you're going to practice honesty, we've got to be willing to get uncomfortable at times well, if we do the first thing, which is cultivate self-awareness, we can be a little bit more honest that's true.
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And me being aware is like, oh, you called out the dishes and I'm looking over and they're stacked up, stacked, so, like I can be aware, I can listen.
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Then I can also be receptive to the fact that it's a safe space.
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I'm not gonna tell you.
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Tell you, well, man, so-and-so, you know, I didn't watch my granddad or my dad do dishes, so why do I have to do dishes?
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No, like I'm going to understand the fact that you're, like you're literally cooking the meals.
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You also are, you know, working.
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There's all of these things going on.
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This is a way that I can help and I can just set aside some time.
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And this is really a pro tip for the fellas too.
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Is that that the reminders?
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Like you mentioned, I told you something like are you going to implement, treat it like work.
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If your boss tells you, hey, on Monday, have this over to me on Monday by noon, you put it on your calendar, you write it down, you make a sticky note, you do all of these steps to remember.
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Or if it's sports, man, I got a team meeting, you know the game started, like you don't miss the game, like we're locked in.
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So put that on the calendar like hey, I need to make sure the night before my routine I got a reminder at 7 pm like I'm going to unload the dishwasher and dump the trash because I know these four kids are coming downstairs in the morning and this is going to help out my wife and this is something that she expressed to me.
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So you can use the reminders app on your phone, like there's things that you can do or your calendar, or just write it down old school to not forget, but it helps you not be in a doghouse.
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You're absolutely correct.
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That will be something that okay.
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Again, you're going to be in a servant leadership role where it's how can I serve you?
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And be also a leader in the household as well, Because your kids are looking at every single thing that you're doing, and, although we don't have kids yet, we've been around multiple parents.
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I've been around a lot of women that talk about their marriage and their kids, and so over these eight, even 10 years of us being together, we've heard so from from one extreme to the other extreme, but it is almost the same things that we're hearing over and over again, and so I think, if you're able to also speak straightforward, though and that's something where, the more you beat around the bush, the more you are not being very just direct in what you want the other person to do or what your expectations are Again doing it in a way that is compassionate, and I'm not.
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If you are in a place where it's a resentful place, then maybe it's.
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I texted over to you in as long text messages.
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Maybe I go and get a card from you know, the dollar store and I write in that, or maybe I uh, you know I sit down and I take you out to eat and it's just like, hey, I want to have a straightforward conversation, we're out of our space, so it doesn't feel so.
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Um, you know, you're looking over at the couch and it's like, oh, we just had a big fight over there.
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You know, you're looking over at the couch and it's like, oh, we just had a big fight over there, you know, and so you can kind of get out of this space as well.
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But I think, speaking straightforward, this is how I feed, this is what was done, this is how I feel about it, this is what I would like to change.
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I feel like if you kind of have a cadence of how you are expressing yourself, then not only will the other person understand you, but then it becomes I'm not getting lost in what you're trying to say, I'm not trying to figure out.
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Well, did she mean this or did he mean this?
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What was the underlying kind of tone or the underlying what's in between the lines?
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It's like, hey, I told you exactly what it was.
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And then, if it keeps happening, that's when you know if something does end up.
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You know if something does end up, uh, you know.
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Uh, hopefully a fight doesn't happen, but if it does you know why?
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Right, Like, I've told you this multiple times over and over again, and maybe you need to write it down in your phone, Maybe you need to, like you said, have the reminders, because this is getting frustrating, this is getting um, it's upsetting me too.
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So I think that's another great way to be able to practice honesty within your relationship and maybe even taking it a step further and being transparent, Because you can be honest about something but if you're transparent, it might be.
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Hey, you know, what you said was a trigger for me because of something that happened in my childhood.
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I didn't realize it at the moment, but now I realize like this was a trigger for me because of something that happened in my childhood.
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I didn't realize it at the moment, but now I realize like this was a situation that happened, and as soon as you said this, or as soon as you did this, it brought me right back to my five-year-old self.
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I feel like that's being more transparent than just being honest and saying that hurt me or that upset me, and that is.
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It's just another way again to go just a little bit step further if you're practicing honesty.
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Yeah, I think understanding the why is always like big right Like just saying, hey, I need you to dump the trash or unload the dishwasher.
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It's like, oh, you're barking orders at me.
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But if you say, okay, the four kids, they're running down the steps, they're thirsty, they're crying, they're this, we're trying to get out the door and I literally need this item and it's dirty and I got to wash it.
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I got to stop.
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Now we're late.
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I can see that in the steps and I'm like, ooh, that doesn't sound like a great experience.
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How can I help you Versus feeling attacked that again I'm getting this directive.
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But something that I thought you did a great job of when it came to like our discussion, when it came to the dishes, was it was the sandwich method and it was essentially coming in with something positive that was like the bun on top, yes, which is basically like, hey, I appreciate all that you do, like you work so hard, man, like you're amazing, I appreciate you, but I really need your help with these dishes.
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And like sweeping up around here and I'm like okay but again I the the bun on the top, like warmed me up to like, oh, you appreciate me, all right, thank you.
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And then you hit me with the like the actual meat of the I haven't asked as well which is I need your help with these dishes.
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And I'm like, okay, yeah, I can definitely help you.
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And then it's like, well, amazing.
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And then you kind of close out with that bottom of the bone with something else that's positive or we move on to the next topic.
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And I think that's a great way too that you brought it up without it having to be a fight, cause I think a lot of couples are maybe feel like they can't be transparent, or maybe they feel like they can't bring something up because it's that fear that this is going to be a fight or this is going to become like I don't want to ruin Friday night Cause I'm bringing up the trash or the dishes and it's like let's just have a good night.
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Correct.
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Well, interesting enough, that's a great segue into the fourth way that you can be a better partner, and it's don't take it personal- Ooh, one of the four agreements.
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One of the four agreements Don't take it personal.
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So something that I heard was attack behaviors, not people.
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So when you're speaking to somebody, like you were just mentioning before, not attacking the person, it's you did this, it's because of you that this is happening, but just the behavior.
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Hey, this is the behavior that I've noticed.
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This is the behavior that I want to change.
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This is a way that we can change that behavior and, to your point, starting off with a positive, you're already putting somebody into a space that feels a little bit more open, right, rather than, if you start off with the negative, I'm already, I have my walls up, I'm feeling defensive, I'm not really listening.
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If you think about it right, I'm not actively listening.
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I may already be tuning you out and I'm like, okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But if you are not taking it personal and if you are attacking the behaviors and not the people, one thing that we always say is charge it to my head and not my heart.
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I'm not intentionally going out of my way to do this.
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I may not even have recognized it, but I just ask that you please give me a little bit of grace, give me some time to also make the adjustment.
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But then if it is something that happens over time and I'm not, you know, continuously doing it then we can have a more, a deeper conversation of oh shoot, you know what I just that was just like a really busy season for me.
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I apologize for not, you know, doing what you asked me to do and making it more of a conversation than I'm coming in trying to attack you.
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You know that's a great call out and I appreciate that you mentioned that, because I think about we've been able to get better at those things over the years, because it wasn't like year one.
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We're just like sandwich method.
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We got it Like no again.
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We, you know, we were 25 and 26 when we were married.
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So you're still, you're young, you're in your twenties, you're figuring things out, and so you are, uh, cause again.
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I'm just quickly, and I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but quickly for me, I know, when you talk about conditioning and exposure, my mom was doing it all.
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I mean, she is cooking, she's cleaning, she's taking us to all the games and the practices and she's making the money.
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She's doing it all.
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And so then I thought, well, I have to be able to do it all, because that's what I saw my mom doing, not realizing that there's other ways to be able to guide yourself through the challenges of being kind of the CEO of the house also being a CEO in a company at least for us, right.
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Also being a daughter, a cousin, right, all of those things like.
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There's different ways to be able to navigate through that and you don't have to do what you've seen.
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You can make a change, but it has to be an intentional change and you have to be conscious and have that self-awareness piece to, like you said before, where you were seeing your dad and your granddad, that they were.
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You know, this is how they grew up.
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You're like you know what, but I can make a change.
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I don't have to be like that.
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I can almost break this cycle.
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Yeah, and this is giving yourself grace too, but also realizing that it doesn't have to be the way that it used to be.
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Yes.
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Like, just because they used to do it, that trash, or because your wife asked for help and you went and helped the kids, or whatever that may be like.
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I feel like that's a unfortunately.
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That's a lot of toxic dialogue that I feel like a lot of guys have listened to and thought that was real life.
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And then you go back to the masculinity.
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You go back to the barbershop and you find out the guy that told you that's been like divorced and lonely for 40 years and you're like, dang, why did I listen to Steve, yes, and it's like, yeah, you know, listen to the guy that's married and he's like, no, and it doesn't have to be happy wife, happy life.
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It could be happy spouse, happy house.
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But these are the things in the framework where you're actually building, building on that foundation so that everybody feels that it's a safe space and that can exist.
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Just sometimes it takes being intentional.